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Welcome to Minds of Mortgage, your go-to destination for thought-provoking conversations about the future of the mortgage industry and beyond. In this special episode, join host Kelly Yale as she sits down with NEO creator Ryan Grant for an insightful discussion on vulnerability in leadership and fostering support during challenging times in the industry. Modern mortgage leadership often feels synonymous with strength and stoicism, but Kelly and Ryan discuss the transformative power of vulnerability. They explore how embracing openness can cultivate deeper connections, foster trust, and drive meaningful organizational change. Drawing from their own experiences in the mortgage industry, Kelly and Ryan share candid insights and personal anecdotes, highlighting the importance of authenticity, empathy, and compassion in leadership roles. They discuss strategies for creating a culture of support and inclusivity, where individuals feel empowered to share their struggles and seek help when needed. From navigating industry downturns to weathering personal and professional challenges, Kelly and Ryan offer practical advice and actionable tips for supporting one another through difficult times. They emphasize the importance of building resilience, practicing self-care, and cultivating a supportive network of peers and mentors. This conversation will inspire and empower you to lead with vulnerability, empathy, and courage. Subscribe to Minds of Mortgage for more insightful discussions on leadership, innovation, and the future of the mortgage industry. Join the conversation, and let's shape a brighter, more compassionate future for the mortgage industry together.